Damien Jugie, marketing manager for Thales's avionics business, was the guest speaker at a recent meeting of AQUI-IHEDN, the Aquitaine region chapter of the alumni association of France's elite IHEDN* defence college. He talked about a subject Thales knows well — innovation in military avionics and its impact on the civil aviation industry — and explored how consumer demand is now adding a third dimension to the duality between civil and military technologies.